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Board Issued Possible Illegal Ballots. Recast Votes Now.
In Club Business
Stone
Jan 29, 2023
Thank you Matt, for opening the door to broaden the conversation on "yes votes" and "no votes", and the "no-to-all vote." I haven't calculated all the possible ballot scenarios that a voting member may submit, but I realize there are more than two -- as we can vote for a single or multiple individual projects of the 5 listed; or vote no-to-all; or a proxy appointment as discussed in this thread. Currently, my household is a no-to-all vote. But we do not fit neatly into one of the buckets you describe: 1. If you are one of the contributors to this forum that advocates with glee to vote against everything, then you are someone (whether you will admit or not) that believes the dockage needs no repair and the roads are fine. 2. Or, alternatively, you believe that by some alchemy those projects will somehow be cheaper once you have finished using your vote to vent your spleen. There is no glee to my vote, aside from being thankful to live in a community where I can vote and have my vote counted, and discuss with my neighbors (sometimes calmly, sometimes heatedly) those things which are most important to me and the longevity of the home and place that I love. I do question pricing. I always question pricing. I believe nearly all of Haig Point residents are quite savvy about pricing, costs and all manner of finance... and that it is a heavily weighted variable in why they purchased here. It strikes me that prospective members, young and old, married and unmarried, with children and without children, golfers and non-golfers, those who love pickleball and those who will come to love pickleball -- will all consider costs when choosing Haig Point Membership vs. "the other side of the water." I think you have hit on an important subject here which touches many topic areas -- too many to review and debate concisely, in a productive manner, without delaying our assessment vote indefinitely. Which brings me to my personal "bucket". If it isn't a gleeful red sharpie, nor a hearty and naive spleen, then what is it? Assessments. I try often and earnestly to speak with those like minded and non-like minded (to me.) I've read HP published materials and non-HP published materials. I've google'd to ask if I were joining a gated community with dues and fees... -- as if I were a 40 or 50 year old starting this journey for the first time. A shout out here to Tom Donohoe, Adam Martin, and numerous committee members for taking time to speak with me in the most civil and pleasant of all manners. You've bought me my first coffee in the Mansion Starbucks, brought me pizza on a particularly hard work day, chatted late into the night by a warm fire, and on and on. I learned so much from each of you and you listened to, and sometimes shared my concerns. Thank you. It is my belief that a history of Assessments, not tied to an emergency (e.g., a hurricane) Assessments which vary in timing and size, greatly discourages new buyers/members. I believe that new buyers ask, scrutinize, and will often choose to buy somewhere else if they see the ease at which a vote could determine an assessment in the future. So this is my #1 concern for proceeding with the vote, and the reason for my "no-to-all" vote. The impact of Assessments on potential buyers and new memberships. This is my bucket. I absolutely want to fund these projects. So all the ancillary and important discussions on how and when, I am happy to participate in those discussions that come after this vote. Elizabeth Stone
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Capital Improvements and Maintenance
In Club Business
Stone
Jan 17, 2023
I love these ideas. Also (and before the naysayers rip my suggestions apart, consider them a baseline to improve upon) what about the following: Occasional special offers with golf clubs located within a certain mile radius - for a group of golfers to visit for a Haig Point weekend. Here is an example I will base on my primary residence: Atlanta is 4 1/2 hours' drive to Embarkation (if you time it right.) No beach. Limited access to the Chattahoochee River. These folks crave water! So, though they have their home golf course, the combo of water + beach..is a draw. Private golf clubs generally host Member|Member and Member|Guest tournaments. Would a nearby club also be interested in creating a club sponsored weekend golf trip to Haig Point (number limited to however many foursomes you tell me -- my "golf math" needs work) and ....just for fun, the winning pair(s) of one or both of the above-mentioned tournaments have their golf and lodging (mansion/lighthouse/rental homes) paid for. (So this "comp" is like the cost of advertising.) The rest get a "special" package rate - but they do pay. Should be well above a break-even for the club and should also be at a peak time when the club is at its most desirable for someone to say "hey I'd like to buy a membership and house here." This could be men's group, women, couples, families, junior golf program (parent+child). Lots of combinations. The hotel formula is to always get the "couple" there...so something to think about too. The idea here is: Immediate revenue generation through some additional non-member golf, AND marketing to potential homebuyers through low-cost advertising (I've been seeing a lot of Charlotte, Atlanta, and drivable locations on the photos by the General Store lately), without disruption by overrunning dining or greens to the exclusion of members (i.e., not a private/closed event.) If this resonates with the Golf and Marketing Committees, I'd be happy to float with some Atlanta club members to see if there is an appetite and brainstorm the mechanics, or provide contact information to the Committees if preferred.
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Email from Board re Special Meeting 1.11.23 + new open session
In Club Business
Stone
Jan 13, 2023
Dear Neighbors, As we await the webpage launch, special meeting and upcoming vote -- I reflect on the many wonderful and informative conversations I've enjoyed these recent days and weeks with neighbors and staff. May we all remember that we are not a community comprised merely of "golfers" and "non-golfers", we are a community of "Haig Pointers." When emotions get the better of us we take our eyes off the ball. We become distracted and lose sight of what is at issue for us and our Club. (I am not speaking of the bocce/golf/tennis/pickle "ball"... but rather the main focus of the vote we've been discussing in the form of a pending assessment for a loan valued at $21M which will assess each membership approximately $63K, the collateral for which is each of our individual commitments to $63K as all of our physical assets are already committed as collateral for an outstanding debt of approx $6M.) At issue is our Club's Finances and our approach to paying for overdue, lagging and ongoing maintenance as well as new improvements to the Club which will bring their own future maintenance and potential additional staffing requirements. Surrounding this core topic are some safety considerations, which I tend to believe are subject to compliance regulations and inspection. We do have the option to vote on any of these projects at a later date. Not voting for one or more of these projects now, does not mean that it will never happen. Please read your ballot carefully. I respectfully ask of the board that we see the sample DocuSign ballot to review for clarity and ease of use by all members - prior to its publication and distribution for voting. Elizabeth Stone
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